The time is going to come--and we can argue about when this will be, but it is going to happen one day--when we can't keep the old promises any more without either cutting benefits, or having a huge tax increase, or realistically, doing both. That's a pretty rotten thing to do to people who're paying money out of their paychecks every day to support the current system, and reasonably enough think they ought to get a decent return on their money.So what Bush is really doing is trying to create a system that will work AFTER I've died in poverty. Well, I'm a forward thinker and I generally like the idea of that, but all politics is local and it doesn't get any more local than me. What about me?
What private accounts can do, but the pay-as-you-go system can't, is grow the pot of money available for people to retire on. The government can't grow money, all we can do is tax or borrow, but the market can. With a private account that'll grow for the next 35 years, a 30-year-old will have a cushion against the benefit cuts that will have to happen at some point in their lives--not tomorrow, not next year, but someday--to keep the government from going broke and their taxes from growing to Swedenesque levels.
Something you didn't address: What if the market screws you out of your money? The market doesn't GUARANTEE a positive return, right? You could lose your money in a private account, right? And not just the market-- but what about the unscrupulous players? Like a company's CEO and its executives who steal the 401(k) money? Shouldn't your retirement money be at least PARTLY in some kind of insurance instrument rather than a risk-based investment instrument?
You might say that Bush's approach does that-- but I'm more convinced that Bush is doing this as a way to ELIMINATE SS as a Government-backed insurance vehicle for people in the future. I think he wants SS to ultimately go away. Don't forget, in 1978 he said that SS would be bankrupt in 10 years. He was as full of shit then as he is today. No wait, check that. He's more full of shit today.
Another reason Bush is pushing this? It rewards his friends on Wall Street. They will do very well under his program. Not so sure about everybody else.
Posted by: Glenn at March 10, 2005 11:24 PMYou have some terribly confused ideas about social security. The word "insurance" has absolutely nothing to do with how the system operates. The words "trust fund" are also often heard, and they also have nothing to do with how the system operates. You are so scared of the market, but in 13 years we are out of CASH. Where is the "insurance" that you think you have? What happened to the tax dollars so carefully placed in the "trust fund"?
You're arguing that Bush is trying to kill a system that is in the throes of committing suicide.
Posted by: Peter at March 15, 2005 08:16 PM
Being the good liberal that I am, I have objections to Bush's plan. But maybe not the expected liberal line. Here's my objections:
1) It does nothing to address the fiscal problems/crisis coming in the out-years
2) If people invest poorly, and some will, and end up with an insufficient amount on which to retire, will Congress and the President have the political will to not rush in and save them? I'm afraid not.
3) The "private accounts" in Bush's plan aren't the property of the wage-owner. Upon retirement, the government will take back in a lump sum the amount that would have accumulated under the present plan; the only part that belongs to the taxpayer, and could be passed on, is the amount over that. Yet that's not the impression people are getting from the carefully worded statements.
I'm not opposed to the principle (or the principal!) of private accounts. I'm opposed to the way this administration is formulating and presenting this plan.
Posted by: Harry at March 16, 2005 08:48 PM